Wednesday, March 22, 2017

The Battle of Midway as Proof Aircraft Carriers are Sitting Ducks

The warriors out there will likely recall the full detail of the story as the Battle of Midway during WWII saw the Japanese bringing five aircraft carriers to it and the Americans brought four.  Prosecution of the battle didn't go much of anywhere during the early part since neither side knew where the other team's aircraft carriers were and could not locate them.

The battle went down to the luck of the draw since the Americans spotted the Japanese aircraft carriers first and immediately wasted four of them.  That ended the Japanese offensive threat and, from that day forward, Japan was losing the war with the only remaining question of how long it would take.


That scenario would not play today because there are one hundred and one Dalmatians in space watching every move any aircraft carrier makes.  They're pegged and they will be sinkers as soon as the starter waves the flag to start destroying things.

They say aircraft carriers are so well-defended today but they said that about WWII aircraft carriers at the time as well.  They act like the Nimitz class aircraft carriers are unsinkable but all you have to do is paint that boat with a laser and it'll be chop suey two minutes later.  If that doesn't work, drop a monster missile on it.  Either way, it's going down.  Those gigantic carriers look so bad ass but they still won't deliver anything but fish food in a full-scale war.


Meanwhile the brainiacs at DARPA are working on a Klingon cloaking device and anything else they can manage which is stupid and ridiculously expensive.  Presumably some brain case wants to cloak an aircraft carrier but maybe the stoner could interject a little reality since the visual wavelength doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of difference.

When NASA satellites can measure the temperature of an underground ocean on a foreign moon, do you seriously think Earth-orbiting satellites are incapable of monitoring the heat signatures of monster-sized aircraft carriers here.  Amazingly enough, military space surveillance is just a little more than pictures for Google Maps and you can get a good idea of the capability by reviewing the talents of NASA probes which can monitor just about anything.

There may be no more perfect representation of the Emperor's New Clothes than a DARPA cloaking device although, to be fair, it would likely have been highly useful during the campaigns by the Roman Empire.


When NASA can photograph Pluto at the resolution of ice cubes from a probe traveling tens of thousands of miles per hour and it's a million miles away, do you seriously believe the military surveillance satellites have any difficult spotting Susie Q Rahdenkratsch's pretty pink panties from space?

Note:  that's not how most in the military usually spell her name.  Sometimes she has a different first name since she must have a large family, all of whom are possessed of pretty pink panties.


Y'all are trying to play a WWII game on a 21st Century board and the nuke war result comes out the same anyway:  everybody dies.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Exocet missile are launched from 100miles out. They only sunk one British warship during the Falkland war. The test were frigate cargo shipspace.
You set the premise the Aircraft carrier group haso no defenses.
40 years ago a KC135 covered the battle group with ECM.
To your point if it goes nuclear there is no need for them.
The English hid tanks in plain sight with light bulbs and that was 70 years ago

Anonymous said...

They ability to surprise a present day battle group is non existent.

As they can see pink panties, and they can tell if she is putting them on or taking them off. I am sure they can see the missile flying at mach 3. Since that is much slower than Susie Q removing those panties

Anonymous said...

They ability to surprise a present day battle group is non existent.

As they can see pink panties, and they can tell if she is putting them on or taking them off. I am sure they can see the missile flying at mach 3. Since that is much slower than Susie Q removing those panties

Peas InOurThyme said...

A single missile is all very well for those billion-dollar creampuff tests for the Pentagon poofs but I'm talking a sky full of them. You saw how badass they thought their carriers were for WWII but eighty percent of Japan's carriers went to the bottom in a few hours. There's your non-creampuff test.

America's carriers weren't that much better. If they were spotted then they were sinkers shortly after.

Midway and Pearl Harbor, the biggest carrier engagements ever, depended entirely on secrecy and that commodity doesn't exist anymore.

Peas InOurThyme said...

Over-confidence hasn't won a war yet and, sure this repeats, WWII carriers were thought to be heavily-defended too. I hear what you're saying but I see almost nothing from big-time war history which gives me any confidence carriers have even a faint chance.

I really don't believe the carriers have any more chance of getting through the first fifteen minutes than any of us. Even if they're not immediately destroyed, they will be immediately radioactive ... which is effectively destroyed anyway.

Anonymous said...

The US lost only two more carriers in the entire war than Japan lost in the Battle of Midway.
The US lost 6 of 30 carriers afloat during the entire war.

I would ask Raven for details as he loves to talk WWII as it was the subject of most of his college days
If surprise attacks are why Midway and Pearl were the reason for the success of the attacks, why would they still be sitting ducks.
The sky over the seas would not be full of missiles as thone would be targeting cities not the very few targets afloat.
There is no battle platform that will survive a nuclear attack. It seems that the only government that wants to fire a nuke can't launch a rocket to carry it. Maybe they should call Branson Musk or Bezos to learn how.

Peas InOurThyme said...

They became sitting ducks as soon as they were exposed since they're too slow to hide again.

I take your point on survival of other carriers but this one turned the war and sinking those carriers was a gigantic part of it. Japan still had plenty of will to resist but they were shattered for offense after that.

I don't have any book study of Pentagon / Midway but my understanding is both would have failed if not for maintaining secrecy for as long as they did.

I'm guessing they have taps for underground cables since nothing aboveground will be working and those might not have melted. How they propose to do anything without GPS seems like nothing more than wishful thinking. All of their drones get parked from the start of it.

Anonymous said...

I just made comment that less than 25% of the aircraft carriers were sunk. You said as soon as they were spotted the American aircraft carriers were all sinkers. But that was not the case.

Peas InOurThyme said...

Fair enough as I must not have stated that well. As soon as the Japanese carriers at Midway were spotted, eighty percent of them went down. Four out of five carriers wiped out their offensive force and blah de blah except how long it took to end it after.

That whole trip was over in hours and that gives me zero confidence in that type of task force for any modern application.