Friday, March 27, 2015

Indiana Hates Queers and Hates You Too

Governor Mike Spence (R, IN) supports freedom in America so he signed the No Queers in My Back Yard law.  Indiana hates queers.

The religious freedom bill gives people in Indiana stores the right to refuse service to people on whatever bigoted basis they like so your best approach to Indiana is to assume they hate everyone and drive around the state rather than through it.


Let's get this straight, Greggie.  This bill won't hurt Indiana's image, it will reveal it for precisely the bigoted, hateful thing that it is.  No more pretending to be righteous now, honey.


It's not so bad they pretend the No Queers in My Backyard law is valid legislation but it burns my ass they want to be recognized for a righteous thing.  They're too gutless to own the hatefulness they made all by their creative selves.


I've heard more than once from black people that the South makes more sense.  A northern racist will say he loves you to your face and call you a nigger when he's with his white friends but a southern racist will call you a nigger to your face.  In either case, they're hateful bastards but at least in the South you know where you stand.  Christians say they love everyone ... just don't let any fags in my store.


Governor Spence's hatefulness is obvious but he still can't touch the California legislators who introduced the legislation to authorize shooting gay people in the head for no bigger crime than being gay.  It is not clear why introduction of this bill has not been prosecuted as a hate crime as it's obviously an organized procedure and it also obviously is intended for an illegal result.  How that is anything different from racketeering and conspiracy is only clear, most likely, to bankers as they have been doing it for years.


People sometimes charge me with hatefulness and this is a mystery as it's not me who wants to shoot gay people, Muslims, or anyone else, for that matter.


Last night I watched "The Purge" which goes down as one of the most despicable movies I have ever seen.  It's based on a false premise (i.e. in the future there will be a Purge Night in which all laws are suspended and people can do whatever they like) and that premise permits speculation on what behavior would result if it were true.  To shorten the movie to its actual content, without law even the best of us turn into vicious animals.

Note:  I watched it because Ethan Hawke stars and he did an exceptional job in "Gattaca" but he made a bad pick with this one.

The first flaw is that Americans don't pay any attention to the law anyway.  Americans only honor laws if they agree with them.  (That's largely true anywhere)

The second flaw is an extremely simplistic view of the reaction good people would have to such a law.  In the movie, people become entirely feudal and turn their homes into fortified castles ... and lots of them get killed.  In the history of the species, however, we form tribes and help each other when situations turn bad.  The tribe still gets a few bad apples ... but those are the ones you send to Indiana.

Therefore, the premise and the conclusion are judged to be rubbish as the premise will never happen and the predicted consequence is shallow Hollywood crap that doesn't even give a single gratuitous boob flash so it fails on the story line and it fails on presentation of gratuitous sex acts.


So, there in a brief roll, we have real laws that mean nothing, fake laws that mean nothing, and an opportunistic Hollywood producer plus some bigoted Indiana legislators laughing all the way to the bank.

11 comments:

Unknown said...

"Minority Report" isn't such a good movie to watch these days as some whizkid will launch that plan any second now. We already have, in effect, 'thought crimes' in people getting arrested on thin Internet conspiracies.

However, I don't accept the fundamental premise to all of this, man is incapable of controlling himself without controlling laws to ensure his behavior. This I do not accept for a millisecond.

Anonymous said...

Man has never even tried living once without laws. Even beginning tribes had reactions for actions
Minority Report is that what filled up Guantanamo

Unknown said...

Fair enough. Dunno if I'll try to split hairs between codified law and the law of the tribe as you still go to Indiana if you violate either one.

My problem is the premise we would disintegrate without them and this is pitiful but it'll do for the moment: animals don't need them.

Yah, I'd say Minority Report is exactly what filled up Guantanamo. Nab the future criminal and save a lot of argita for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Surely animals have them. Look at any pack animal or hive insect
Without laws, rules, hierarchy it all breaks down.
Singular man rules himself but social man needs rules to control his base desires.

Unknown said...

Arguing is pointless as I am lost. Your last point is the main thing about this but I disagree that the rule is the control but rather fear of what happens if you violate it. I'm sure India has all kinds of rules against rape but no-one much is prosecuted and it happens a lot.

Despite that evidence, I don't believe it's the fear of getting caught that stops most people from raping or committing other crimes. There are many things you know without being told.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you about most people. Laws are meant for the few. Without them the few would run wild and mob mentality would cause the borderline to join. Then the good have to hide.
I think the amount of gang rape in India would agree with that. Rape is a special case as the amount that happens that is never reported also allows it to continue

Not arguing but I do disagree with the premise that once started good people would not join in.

Unknown said...

I don't see an argument as it's a fascinating thing whether humans have any inherent goodness, it's something we learn, some combination.

We've seen how the good will join in through dark periods in history. How much of that is fear they will be killed if they don't and how much is losing your sensibilities is hard to tell.

One of my all-time favorites is the Dancing Frenzy of, I think, about the Twelfth Century or so. Entire villages would start dancing and they would keep doing it until they all collapsed from exhaustion. Presumably good, bad, and everyone else is doing this ... but it stopped and no-one ever figured out what started it or why it went away.

Anonymous said...

Mob mentality is just as contagious wether it is a good or bad process
I believe man is inherently good until an Indiana bad apple is introduced an then all bets are off. I think that most of man is not far removed from lemmings.
Most riots are people losing sensibilities not fear of death. But most dictators didnt start by killing to keep power
If we made IQ above 100 as the base requirement to have offspring I believe that would help
Maybe not

Unknown said...

Maybe the Army is an example of mob hysteria in a way as it wasn't real until I got in there and saw this is fuckin' crazy and I ain't doin' it. There was only one other guy who did anything about it, tho. All the others started writing We Kill Gooks on their helmets. Whether my decision was moral or anything else really doesn't matter as you can pull back from it if you're of a mind to do it but, as you say, most don't.

Carlin said the problem is dumb asses but Hitler said the answer is eugenics. Although I agree dumb asses are the problem, I don't have a good answer for what anyone does about it.

I'm not Christian, blah, blah but humans evolved the way we were 'supposed' to evolve and, even if not, this is what we are and screwing with that is some skin-crawling stuff ... or it ought to be!

Anonymous said...

I dont think the army applies as it us the sole mission to convince you that the killing that killing they arw going ti force you to do is not just acceptable but honorable The issue for soldiers returning is once they are back in society and thinking for themselves again they re discover their real beliefs again
I dont believe we evolved the way we were meant to be. If so we would not have the desire to kill each other.
The issue for the many is that in order to remove the few so many would have to die in the grass roots uprising Catch 22

Unknown said...

Well, the thing with Catch-22 is Yossarian didn't make it. Even if you know about the Catch, you still get caught by it. No need to be needlessly pessimistic as I do believe people will sort things although the thinking may seem a bit fanciful when the people are listening to One Direction. What I hope that means is the hotshots said fuck music, I'm going to do something really creative. So, young grasshoppers, let's see it!