Sunday, June 21, 2015

It's the Fluoride, Dagwood - Updated

People will let Nestle suck every gallon of water out of their land as they are doing their bit in the resistance against government interference.  Nestle Corporation loves us and won't put fluoride in the water.  We really don't know what gifts the plastic may impart but they probably won't contain fluoride.

After fluoridation of public water, there was such a drop in dental cavities in children that many dentists started posting on their offices notices of cosmetic dentistry as the primary field.  They switched to specializing in braces and whatever processes are needed for that Hollywood smile.

Unknown if it's accurate but Jenny McCarthy symbolizes for me rejection of medical wisdom as her name comes up more than any other I hear in the context of an anti-vaccination movement.  Presumably she also rejects fluoridation on the same general basis but I don't know that.  A large number of people hold the position against fluoridation despite decades of evidence of the dental health benefits.

Along comes Nestle with their bottled water which is cleaner, you know, and we don't <wink> <wink> mean it has no fluoride.

Billions of dollars in profits ensue.


Update:  the above is true as to the reason for consumption of bottled water ... but it's not true regarding the efficacy of fluoride-treated water.  The quick read is there no value relative to preventive dentistry in it.

Some of the original content of this article has been removed as it turns out to be utter rubbish (as differentiated from normal rubbish, I suppose).  There's a new collection of rubbish, fluoride treatment being one aspect, in a newer article:  Fluoridation Adds Yet Another Hoax to the Collection



Cadillac Man mentioned Lewis Black earlier and he does a rant on bottled water.  He didn't get into the fluoride aspect so I thought I'd go off on a little rant of my own.  (CM, I did know who you meant but didn't connect the name.  I agree he's great.)

11 comments:

Dan Germouse said...

I have asked many forced-fluoridation fanatics to tell me how much accumulated fluoride in the body they think is safe. So far not a single one of them has been able to answer the question.
http://forcedfluoridationfreedomfighters.com/a-preliminary-investigation-into-fluoride-accumulation-in-bone/

Anonymous said...

Bottled water makes Starbuck silly . Starbucks convinced a nation it is ok to pay $6 for a cup of coffee. Bottled water ( the same that comes out of your kitchen faucet at a costs of less than 1penny per gallon) costs about $8 per gallon if bought by the pint. Three times the costs of refined gas.
What did P.T. say

Unknown said...

Dan, thanks for a reference to an article to show me I'm a 'racist fluoridationist' as I might not have known otherwise. Lots of numbers in your article, none of which conclude much of anything but thanks for juggling them for the crowd. Oh, btw, your kids will be vaccinated, yes?

Unknown said...

Every time someone buys a bottle of water, P.T. Barnum breaks into guffaws of laughter.

Dan Germouse said...

Peas InOurThyme, I notice you didn't answer the question as to how much accumulated fluoride in the body is safe. You struggle with numbers, do you?

Unknown said...

No, I read the link you posted previously and saw any numbers at all will amuse you. They're great for the fake science used by online posers to act knowledgeable and get people killed with their phony medicine. There are real scientists online but there's nothing you have said thus far to even hint you could be one of them although there's ample evidence of a substantial supply of aluminum hats.

Dan Germouse said...

I have two degrees in the physical sciences from one of Australia's Group of Eight universities, one of which is an Honours degree. Why don't you just admit that you are scientifically illiterate, have never bothered to read any of the research and wouldn't understand it if you did, and are completely clueless in general? If you actually had a clue, you would know that extreme stupidity is a prerequisite for being a forced-fluoridation fanatic like you. Countries without forced-fluoridation have lower dental caries rates than countries with forced-fluoridation, by the way.

Unknown said...

It's an enormous surprise to find you do have an accurate summary of the decline in dental caries compared across countries with/without fluoridation. It's a novel surprise as that one has been accepted as general fact for so long I've not heard anyone questioning it in years. The last sentence is what elicited the interest so, assuming your scientific credentials are not an Internet fantasy, I do hope you teach better than you type.

Anonymous said...

Flourudation yes or no. Another water bottling company us recalling thier product because of E Coli.
How do you mess up water. It comes out of your faucet. Oh the standards for bottled water are less stringent than the water from your faucet.

Anonymous said...

PS peas dont you have degrees in science also Didnt your father have multiple degrees from several universities including teaching in Austalia Universities
Seems to be genetic

Unknown said...

Anon, Lewis Black hammers this material. As you say, how can you screw up water. He observed there's a list of ingredients on a bottle of plastic water. I guess that must list the stuff which wasn't in the water when they found it.

It's odd how intelligence manifested itself in the family as some are crackers for numbers and others for words but not usually the same ones in each area. I'm sure the correlation with intelligence is near 100% for chess playing ability but the peril is you may fall off the top and turn into a flaming NAZI who dribbles on himself as with Bobby Fischer.

It's an assumption but hopefully true that we're speaking of our ol' Dad and it does make me proud to think of the things he achieved in science. My interest in getting a degree wasn't a passion but rather not being at all sure what I ought to do with myself so let's follow this one for a while to see where it goes. It didn't go anywhere but that was ok as there was a big pile of interesting but generally useless knowledge I got from it. For my purposes, that's the finest kind as it intrigues me trying to synthesize seemingly unrelated things.

This fluoridation business is an R.E.M. "Losing My Religion" kind of thing as I really did believe that one was true. Poof. I suppose this one chalks up to over-zealous politicos taking the science beyond what it said. Pursuit of this is hardly a religious pilgrimage but what I gleaned of it is the high concentration of fluoride in toothpaste likely does have therapeutic / prophylactic value but the low concentration of it in public water doesn't do much of anything. The question left hanging is why is it still added when it doesn't work and possibly results in a substantive health problem as the report on reduced IQ from high levels of fluoride had credibility as well.