Our pal Steve got a bit weird after he recorded with Pink Floyd and now it seems he has been talking to space aliens. He said any space aliens coming here would be faced with the same situation as the settlers when the arrived in the New World. (LiveScience: Is Stephen Hawking Right About Hostile Aliens?)
The logical thing happened: they wasted them.
So Hawking thinks it's the same.
It could be the same except for one tiny detail. Listen closely to me on this one, Steve ... boobie ... listen up now.
THEY ARE SPACE ALIENS!! THEY ARE NOT FUCKING HUMANS!!!
But then they continue with it. They must be like us because we see how we developed and this must be the only way intelligence can happen. It's the only way cells can evolve. It's the only way cells can even exist.
Just one little tip on that, junior water buffaloes ...
THEY GOT HERE FIRST!!! THEY ARE WAY SMARTER THAN YOUR SILLY ASS!!!
WHATEVER IS IN THOSE CELLS WORKS A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN YOURS!!!
Assuming space aliens must resemble humans in any faintest way is precious but not realistic.
Human logic is binary in yes or no to proceed but perhaps this is too simplistic for them and their thinking is in three or more ways with yes, no, or maybe all being valid at once.
(Ed: like women?)
Yep, like women.
Whether women really can do that doesn't matter much because most people don't. In our logic, maybe isn't a direction but a stall.
Assuming space aliens will think using the same evolutionary constructs which make up humans strikes more as wishful thinking than anything else. In speculating space aliens resemble us is the fact of tremendous energy requirements required by the brain. That assumes evolution of nerves in the same way as in humans where there is tremendous differentiation for various types of cells.
The nature of evolution is copying just about everything. You don't carry DNA only from monkeys but rather many of the creatures which have ever lived. There is tremendous duplication of DNA throughout the animal kingdom. Therefore, whichever model of cell differentiation arises at the earliest stages will have an enormous affect on the hierarchy of creatures which evolve from it.
We're coming to think DNA is the only mechanism for recording genetic information but, despite its incredible sophistication, this is only the way it evolved on Earth. We think it must be DNA because it seems the only way Nature tried on Earth but that doesn't preclude other mechanisms elsewhere ... or processes entirely unfamiliar in which combinations of DNA come from multiple partners to produce the actual progeny.
Humans like to think of ourselves as an 'end state' for evolution but that's never been true for any other creatures to walk the Earth. Nevertheless, designing the actual physical apparatus of a human from scratch rather than evolving it from single-celled organisms would likely result in a radically-different design.
Fundamental to Hawking's premise is the aliens are motivated by the same thing as the English settlers in the U.S. (i.e. escape persecution, greed, blah, blah). Crossing the Atlantic was a formidable undertaking for the settlers but it was hardly a first effort as humans have been going to sea for millennia.
Likening crossing between stars and crossing an ocean really doesn't make much sense as there's not much technology in observing things float in water. The first time you see a tree branch in the water after a storm, you will be onto it with making boats. There's an immense technology needed to make anything float in space and we're not even close to it or even the ability to conceive of a solution.
We can't even find them. For all the trillions of stars, no-one has ever heard space aliens. We assume because we broadcast everything over radio waves that anywhere else will do that as well ... unless they communicate with light. It's not so outlandish as many creatures, particularly deep sea creatures, do that now.
The logical thing happened: they wasted them.
So Hawking thinks it's the same.
It could be the same except for one tiny detail. Listen closely to me on this one, Steve ... boobie ... listen up now.
THEY ARE SPACE ALIENS!! THEY ARE NOT FUCKING HUMANS!!!
But then they continue with it. They must be like us because we see how we developed and this must be the only way intelligence can happen. It's the only way cells can evolve. It's the only way cells can even exist.
Just one little tip on that, junior water buffaloes ...
THEY GOT HERE FIRST!!! THEY ARE WAY SMARTER THAN YOUR SILLY ASS!!!
WHATEVER IS IN THOSE CELLS WORKS A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN YOURS!!!
Assuming space aliens must resemble humans in any faintest way is precious but not realistic.
Human logic is binary in yes or no to proceed but perhaps this is too simplistic for them and their thinking is in three or more ways with yes, no, or maybe all being valid at once.
(Ed: like women?)
Yep, like women.
Whether women really can do that doesn't matter much because most people don't. In our logic, maybe isn't a direction but a stall.
Assuming space aliens will think using the same evolutionary constructs which make up humans strikes more as wishful thinking than anything else. In speculating space aliens resemble us is the fact of tremendous energy requirements required by the brain. That assumes evolution of nerves in the same way as in humans where there is tremendous differentiation for various types of cells.
The nature of evolution is copying just about everything. You don't carry DNA only from monkeys but rather many of the creatures which have ever lived. There is tremendous duplication of DNA throughout the animal kingdom. Therefore, whichever model of cell differentiation arises at the earliest stages will have an enormous affect on the hierarchy of creatures which evolve from it.
We're coming to think DNA is the only mechanism for recording genetic information but, despite its incredible sophistication, this is only the way it evolved on Earth. We think it must be DNA because it seems the only way Nature tried on Earth but that doesn't preclude other mechanisms elsewhere ... or processes entirely unfamiliar in which combinations of DNA come from multiple partners to produce the actual progeny.
Humans like to think of ourselves as an 'end state' for evolution but that's never been true for any other creatures to walk the Earth. Nevertheless, designing the actual physical apparatus of a human from scratch rather than evolving it from single-celled organisms would likely result in a radically-different design.
Fundamental to Hawking's premise is the aliens are motivated by the same thing as the English settlers in the U.S. (i.e. escape persecution, greed, blah, blah). Crossing the Atlantic was a formidable undertaking for the settlers but it was hardly a first effort as humans have been going to sea for millennia.
Likening crossing between stars and crossing an ocean really doesn't make much sense as there's not much technology in observing things float in water. The first time you see a tree branch in the water after a storm, you will be onto it with making boats. There's an immense technology needed to make anything float in space and we're not even close to it or even the ability to conceive of a solution.
We can't even find them. For all the trillions of stars, no-one has ever heard space aliens. We assume because we broadcast everything over radio waves that anywhere else will do that as well ... unless they communicate with light. It's not so outlandish as many creatures, particularly deep sea creatures, do that now.
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