The Rockhouse has been bitching about a Deep State for almost as long as such a thing has existed. It's novel to see CNN has become aware of it at last but that may be some marginal progress. (CNN: What's a 'Deep State' and why is it a new buzzword for the online right?)
How much CNN is truly aware of the situation is not clear since that organization has been one of the largest sources of fake news and is, thus, serving the Deep State.
The punch is at the bottom of the article with the revelations from Edward Snowden.
In 2013, leaked documents provided by Edward Snowden revealed the US conducted mass government surveillance, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel accused the US of wiretapping her phone. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed that year, Peggy Noonan wondered whether Obama saying he was unaware of the tapping was evidence of "what amounts to a deep state without the outer state in the US — a deep state consisting of our intelligence and security agencies, which are so vast and far-flung in their efforts that they themselves don't fully know who's in charge and what everyone else is doing."
- CNN
However, they blow past that truth and go straight to obfuscating things again with, well, here's what Deep State means now.
Today, "Deep State" shows up frequently on message boards used by Trump supporters and websites like InfoWars. In one post on the message board 4/chan, a user accused it of staging a coup against Trump by leaking information to discredit members of his Cabinet, including Flynn and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
"The deep state has erupted into a clandestine war between hostile elements loyal to their alternate power structures and friendly elements loyal to the US and its lawfully elected government," one user wrote. "Groups within executive branch agencies and the intelligence community view Trump as a threat to their entrenched corruption."
- CNN
There you see it plainly in the effort to redefine the word and then marginalize it. Oh, you know, boys will be boys and this will happen.
Washington pols have responded in the tritest possible ways.
Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Kentucky, told CNN's Kate Bolduan last month he disagreed with "a lot of people here in Washington and maybe some supporters of Trump who say that this is an effort by the Obama administration to undermine the Trump administration."
"I'm worried it's something deeper than that," Massie said. "I'm concerned that it's an effort on those who want a provocation with Russia or other countries to sort of push the president in the direction. So I don't think it's Trump vs. Obama, I think it's really the Deep State vs. the president, the duly elected president."
- CNN
That kind of pettiness is an example of just one more game by Washington in which they won't speak truth about anything. We need experts and instead we keep getting amateurs.
I wasn't even born here and I know the history of the CIA better than most. It's not just embarrassing but shameful that political representatives, ostensibly those who love America the most, don't know that history or are not willing to reveal their knowledge.
Perhaps I present as the lone loon nuthead but Cadillac Man may well have a stronger opinion of the CIA and his knowledge of American history is better than any ten people. He's been absorbing the material all his life and in retirement there's a bit of question with him as to whether it's really ok to sit around all day reading history books.
It's way more than ok, Cadillac Man.
I think Cadillac Man may believe there are some good ones in the CIA, NSA, or any of that array of US spook organizations. I've never believed that and contend they have gone Deep State almost since their inception when Harry Truman lost control of them. The Deep State is the enemy of the world.
How much CNN is truly aware of the situation is not clear since that organization has been one of the largest sources of fake news and is, thus, serving the Deep State.
The punch is at the bottom of the article with the revelations from Edward Snowden.
In 2013, leaked documents provided by Edward Snowden revealed the US conducted mass government surveillance, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel accused the US of wiretapping her phone. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed that year, Peggy Noonan wondered whether Obama saying he was unaware of the tapping was evidence of "what amounts to a deep state without the outer state in the US — a deep state consisting of our intelligence and security agencies, which are so vast and far-flung in their efforts that they themselves don't fully know who's in charge and what everyone else is doing."
- CNN
However, they blow past that truth and go straight to obfuscating things again with, well, here's what Deep State means now.
Today, "Deep State" shows up frequently on message boards used by Trump supporters and websites like InfoWars. In one post on the message board 4/chan, a user accused it of staging a coup against Trump by leaking information to discredit members of his Cabinet, including Flynn and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
"The deep state has erupted into a clandestine war between hostile elements loyal to their alternate power structures and friendly elements loyal to the US and its lawfully elected government," one user wrote. "Groups within executive branch agencies and the intelligence community view Trump as a threat to their entrenched corruption."
- CNN
There you see it plainly in the effort to redefine the word and then marginalize it. Oh, you know, boys will be boys and this will happen.
Washington pols have responded in the tritest possible ways.
Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Kentucky, told CNN's Kate Bolduan last month he disagreed with "a lot of people here in Washington and maybe some supporters of Trump who say that this is an effort by the Obama administration to undermine the Trump administration."
"I'm worried it's something deeper than that," Massie said. "I'm concerned that it's an effort on those who want a provocation with Russia or other countries to sort of push the president in the direction. So I don't think it's Trump vs. Obama, I think it's really the Deep State vs. the president, the duly elected president."
- CNN
That kind of pettiness is an example of just one more game by Washington in which they won't speak truth about anything. We need experts and instead we keep getting amateurs.
I wasn't even born here and I know the history of the CIA better than most. It's not just embarrassing but shameful that political representatives, ostensibly those who love America the most, don't know that history or are not willing to reveal their knowledge.
Perhaps I present as the lone loon nuthead but Cadillac Man may well have a stronger opinion of the CIA and his knowledge of American history is better than any ten people. He's been absorbing the material all his life and in retirement there's a bit of question with him as to whether it's really ok to sit around all day reading history books.
It's way more than ok, Cadillac Man.
I think Cadillac Man may believe there are some good ones in the CIA, NSA, or any of that array of US spook organizations. I've never believed that and contend they have gone Deep State almost since their inception when Harry Truman lost control of them. The Deep State is the enemy of the world.
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The recent issues regarding intelligence agencies overstepping their boundaries have caused at least some discussion and awareness of how they deter our constitutional guarantees. It will only be resolved when Americans see their privacy as more valuable than a false sense of security and take action.
I'm sure most or all of the regulars have the awareness and the mystery is why it's possible to delude so many. It seems all they have to do is get Alec Baldwin to play the fool and people forget all about the matter.
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