The woman in Australia who murdered her eight children was judged to be insane so there's the jump shot: is she really crazy or cleverly looking for an out. Thanks to Lotho for the Daily Dilemma.
The Telegraph: Australian mother who killed eight children suffered from schizophrenia and will not face charges
Raina Thaiday CREDIT: REX FEATURES
A court in Australia ruled that a 40-year-old mother who killed her seven children and a niece in a bid to “save them” from the apocalypse should not face charges because she was suffering from severe schizophrenia, possibly linked to cannabis use.
In one of Australia’s worst mass murders, Raina Thaiday, a much-liked mother with no criminal record or history of mental health problems, brutally stabbed her four sons, three daughters and a niece after coming to believe she was the “Chosen One”.
The bodies of the children – aged 2 to 14 - were found at her home in Cairns, a tropical city in the state of Queensland, in December 2014. By then, Thaiday, apparently realising what she had done, had stabbed herself 35 times.
Three psychiatrists who saw Thaiday after the crime said her mental state had been deteriorating for months before the killings and she eventually came to believe that she could communicate with spirits.
- Telegraph
'Much-liked?' After eight kids, that sounds a like more than liking.
- Woman whacked her eight kids by stabbing them
- Woman tries to conclude by stabbing herself 35 times
- Woman's stabbing technique which worked for eight kids fails when she uses it on herself
The immediate review from most is she's crazy as a loon and should be in the most appropriate storage location, the looney bin.
The review from the lawyers, at least some of them, is that she's just being clever to work her devious plan. However, for any credibility in that, maybe you need to ask just what the fuck kind of clever plan is that since she will be in some kind of slammer until she's an ex-murderer in a box.
The situation in America is hardly anyone is ever judged insane. America likes killing too much to let anyone walk away from a crime but there's more to it than that since there's one thing on which almost all Americans agree: no-one trusts psychiatrists.
It's a comical situation since Americans will trust lawyers, often implicitly, but they don't trust a word a psychiatrist says. The explanation is not difficult since they're afraid of lawyers but think psychiatrists are even crazier than the criminals. You see how well that logic worked out for them in Washington as it focuses more and more intently on murder and mayhem and less intently on everything else.
Ed: they're crazy
Obviously
Psychiatrists aren't always trying so hard for credibility, tho.
Dr Frank Varghese, a psychiatrist, said Thaiday’s "apocalyptic delusional state" and severe schizophrenia may have been triggered by her long-term cannabis usage. She apparently stopped using cannabis months before the killings.
"This is schizophrenia at its very depth and its worst in terms of the terror for the patient, as well as the consequences for the individuals killed," he said.
- Telegraph
Ooh, she was in an apocalyptic delusional state and I'm starting to think about sex and my ol' Mother right away. Freud, Freud, bring on the Complex, my brother!
The Rockhouse has been stoned on the ganja and sometimes multiple other things for fifty years. The ganja has been smoked every day depending on availability which is generally extremely good.
In all those fifty years of heavy stonin', I have never anywhere heard anyone say marijuana triggers schizophrenia. That experience includes stonin' in multiple American states and also multiple other countries. I say again, the psychiatrist was just guessing and he has no idea what triggered the problem.
Regardless of any courtroom pish posh, this woman is barking mad and you know it perfectly well. There's a good chance Dr Frank Varghese is barking mad as well but he doesn't hurt people. She needs to be somewhere we can be sure she can't hurt anyone again.
In America, the reaction is typically, fuck it, whack the bitch and be done with it. The Rockhouse is obviously not supportive of barbaric logic like that but there's more to it since what fun is it for American whackos if they kill someone but she thinks she's in the execution room because Tinkerbell is going to bring her a cake.
Yankee Boy: I want to hear some repentance and I want to hear some suffering before death from these criminals
All because wifey won't give you blowjobs, huh? Aren't you a peach. Besides, she's not going to repent; she doesn't even know where she is.
If you're really not getting this, there was an Arkansas TV station on which a couple of reporters were talking about how one of the reporters was looking forward to the next execution because 'this one will be interesting.' If you really haven't grasped the shallowness of these people, take a look for those two and that will explain it all. The logic or ethicality of application of the death penalty doesn't even occur to them.
In other words, there's a far bigger problem in America than simply whether people are judged crazy after doing crazy things. When people give no more thought to state-sponsored murder than they do in choosing their breakfast cereal, the Rockhouse submits the problem is not isolated in the criminals.
The Telegraph: Australian mother who killed eight children suffered from schizophrenia and will not face charges
Raina Thaiday CREDIT: REX FEATURES
A court in Australia ruled that a 40-year-old mother who killed her seven children and a niece in a bid to “save them” from the apocalypse should not face charges because she was suffering from severe schizophrenia, possibly linked to cannabis use.
In one of Australia’s worst mass murders, Raina Thaiday, a much-liked mother with no criminal record or history of mental health problems, brutally stabbed her four sons, three daughters and a niece after coming to believe she was the “Chosen One”.
The bodies of the children – aged 2 to 14 - were found at her home in Cairns, a tropical city in the state of Queensland, in December 2014. By then, Thaiday, apparently realising what she had done, had stabbed herself 35 times.
Three psychiatrists who saw Thaiday after the crime said her mental state had been deteriorating for months before the killings and she eventually came to believe that she could communicate with spirits.
- Telegraph
'Much-liked?' After eight kids, that sounds a like more than liking.
- Woman whacked her eight kids by stabbing them
- Woman tries to conclude by stabbing herself 35 times
- Woman's stabbing technique which worked for eight kids fails when she uses it on herself
The immediate review from most is she's crazy as a loon and should be in the most appropriate storage location, the looney bin.
The review from the lawyers, at least some of them, is that she's just being clever to work her devious plan. However, for any credibility in that, maybe you need to ask just what the fuck kind of clever plan is that since she will be in some kind of slammer until she's an ex-murderer in a box.
The situation in America is hardly anyone is ever judged insane. America likes killing too much to let anyone walk away from a crime but there's more to it than that since there's one thing on which almost all Americans agree: no-one trusts psychiatrists.
It's a comical situation since Americans will trust lawyers, often implicitly, but they don't trust a word a psychiatrist says. The explanation is not difficult since they're afraid of lawyers but think psychiatrists are even crazier than the criminals. You see how well that logic worked out for them in Washington as it focuses more and more intently on murder and mayhem and less intently on everything else.
Ed: they're crazy
Obviously
Psychiatrists aren't always trying so hard for credibility, tho.
Dr Frank Varghese, a psychiatrist, said Thaiday’s "apocalyptic delusional state" and severe schizophrenia may have been triggered by her long-term cannabis usage. She apparently stopped using cannabis months before the killings.
"This is schizophrenia at its very depth and its worst in terms of the terror for the patient, as well as the consequences for the individuals killed," he said.
- Telegraph
Ooh, she was in an apocalyptic delusional state and I'm starting to think about sex and my ol' Mother right away. Freud, Freud, bring on the Complex, my brother!
The Rockhouse has been stoned on the ganja and sometimes multiple other things for fifty years. The ganja has been smoked every day depending on availability which is generally extremely good.
In all those fifty years of heavy stonin', I have never anywhere heard anyone say marijuana triggers schizophrenia. That experience includes stonin' in multiple American states and also multiple other countries. I say again, the psychiatrist was just guessing and he has no idea what triggered the problem.
Regardless of any courtroom pish posh, this woman is barking mad and you know it perfectly well. There's a good chance Dr Frank Varghese is barking mad as well but he doesn't hurt people. She needs to be somewhere we can be sure she can't hurt anyone again.
In America, the reaction is typically, fuck it, whack the bitch and be done with it. The Rockhouse is obviously not supportive of barbaric logic like that but there's more to it since what fun is it for American whackos if they kill someone but she thinks she's in the execution room because Tinkerbell is going to bring her a cake.
Yankee Boy: I want to hear some repentance and I want to hear some suffering before death from these criminals
All because wifey won't give you blowjobs, huh? Aren't you a peach. Besides, she's not going to repent; she doesn't even know where she is.
If you're really not getting this, there was an Arkansas TV station on which a couple of reporters were talking about how one of the reporters was looking forward to the next execution because 'this one will be interesting.' If you really haven't grasped the shallowness of these people, take a look for those two and that will explain it all. The logic or ethicality of application of the death penalty doesn't even occur to them.
In other words, there's a far bigger problem in America than simply whether people are judged crazy after doing crazy things. When people give no more thought to state-sponsored murder than they do in choosing their breakfast cereal, the Rockhouse submits the problem is not isolated in the criminals.
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