1980's Catholic Sex video and this should do it so let's get this straight ... these are the same people who say the parents should do this, yes? They're not the exclusive owners of No Sex Talk in School but they're definitely in the party for that.
Unknown if they still manufacture this type of ludicrous swill but it would surprise me if it went any distance with the children of today or at least not for long.
As you see, the parents weren't doing it ... or they do even worse than this. Billy Joel sang 'Catholic girls start much too late' but that wasn't the experience with me or anyone I knew. For all the Catholic sex instruction films, there's one obvious conclusion: they didn't fookin' work.
The girls I knew in my life would have received sex instruction films which were even more archaic than this. The lack of openness is disturbing ... but it was also almost forty years ago (shrug).
This looks like a clear case of the teacher principle: if you don't get good sex then teach someone else how to stink at it too. Share the misery.
The reason for presenting it is you may find it funny. For me it's a parody but Yevette was frosted by it. I imagine someone in more modern garb presenting exactly this spiel ... and then the tomatoes and rotten eggs flying through the air before it completes.
Unknown if they still manufacture this type of ludicrous swill but it would surprise me if it went any distance with the children of today or at least not for long.
As you see, the parents weren't doing it ... or they do even worse than this. Billy Joel sang 'Catholic girls start much too late' but that wasn't the experience with me or anyone I knew. For all the Catholic sex instruction films, there's one obvious conclusion: they didn't fookin' work.
The girls I knew in my life would have received sex instruction films which were even more archaic than this. The lack of openness is disturbing ... but it was also almost forty years ago (shrug).
This looks like a clear case of the teacher principle: if you don't get good sex then teach someone else how to stink at it too. Share the misery.
The reason for presenting it is you may find it funny. For me it's a parody but Yevette was frosted by it. I imagine someone in more modern garb presenting exactly this spiel ... and then the tomatoes and rotten eggs flying through the air before it completes.
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Well, I went to a Catholic Elementary School (1964-72) and a Catholic High School (1972-76.) I never saw one of those films. Sex was not mentioned at all in school until we were all about 13 years old, virtually everyone in the class had reached puberty, and they segregated the boys and the girls for an hour for "the talk." It was surprisingly matter-of-fact about the biological aspects of it, and as you would expect, it was extremely high in the "permanent consequences" and "respect for the body as God's Temple" category. This was in a time period where parents ran away from the topic, so for most of us, that single hour was the only sex-ed we'd receive.
High School was a bit different. Freshman Religion class was really what you'd call "Health" today. It was all about self-awareness, self-growth, etc. Sex was dealt with extensively in that class, but looking back on it now, my recollection is that it was treated from the practical angle, not the religious theoretical angle. It was the first time I'd heard any teacher - a Christian Brother, no less - talk openly about masturbation. I'll never forget what he said: "It's going to happen, you're going to do it, you're going to enjoy it, and most importantly, it is NOT a sin. It's a very natural part of growing up." He then proceeded to give advice on clean-up of very sensitive parts, etc. As I said, practical, not preachy.
The concept of birth control was taught by a priest. We covered just about every form of birth control known in the mid-1970s. He did cover the Rhythm Method, since it was the only birth control permitted officially by the Church. He prefaced it by saying, "We do have a name for women that practice this method of birth control. We call them 'mothers'." As I said, practical, not preachy. At no point in either school were we told what we could not or should not do. Rather, they approached it from the perspective of addressing the reality of it, and allowed us to draw our own conclusions related to the morality aspect.
Actually, my approach would not be so terribly different since I perceive so little practical knowledge of anything coming out of high school and sexual readiness is only one aspect of a generic failure to deal with it.
My general perception also is Catholics are not the team which clamors so hard against sex education since that, I think, comes from a more fundamentalist crew.
I don't hear any hard proscription against birth control in this package and the one one of content, I suspect, is likely to be I want some teacher / authority type to tell them it's ok to be gay, be whatever you like, just don't jack around anyone else about it.
My interest isn't specifically sexual but rather public schools don't teach them much of anything. How do I deal with a digital tax form and why should I anyway. How does paying bills work. Why should I go to college when I like fixing guitars. A foreign language is required but why.
Your view of High School is skewed by your intelligence. Almost all schools have a life skills class that teach check writing balancing a simple family budget. How to fill out a 1040EZ form etc.
Basic math classes take care also cover these items. Also, most schools have a tech skills division that used to only include auto or wood shop but now have full tech college levels so that a student can graduate from HS with a welding certificate.
In todays schools, I would list Soanish as a required class not a foreign langauge. I would only require a foreign langauge in a College Prep program. Most of our local schools teach Spanish as early as 1st grade
The Health classes have not changed much in all these years except to include diversity
Dunno about intelligence as I just go by what I saw but it's a while back. I hear kids bitching about lack of preparation in life skills type things so I figure, well, must not have changed much. Maybe they just shine on the old guy. I'm not disputing anything, just getting mixed signals.
I see the mention of the welding certificate and that's excellent for coming out of it with a workable and valuable skill but it's still not creating much awareness. For example, history is usually taught in terms of rote memory and has no life whatsoever. Unknown if that has improved but it was close to worthless in my days.
When Spanish is required, I have no particular reason to push another language since that awareness of 'more than this' would already be there. People more to the North may not get it so much but you already know Spanish is everywhere. I like the idea of Spanish from the first grade because such skills are so much easier when you're young.
In many ways, my concerns revolve around health in terms of sex, drugs, life, and the reason for the school is because of presumed objectivity. You see already the reaction to the Catholic school's approach to sex education which actually raises little concern in the form raised by Kannafoot with obvious exceptions.
Awareness is light is truth, etc, etc
My only memory of history in high school is my teacher was kind of cute. Amazingly enough, that's all I remember of French class also. High school was otherwise unremarkable.
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