We have seen manifest incompetence from the Chicago Police Department from the Mayor's office to street cops. We have also seen their now-not-secret building where they went beyond Constitutional authority and maybe still do. I figure that's been publicized so much there's no need for citations.
So we're clear cops are a bad job up there but there were, I believe, seven to eight hundred killings by civilians in Chicago last year and, anywhere else in the war, that would be called a combat zone.
Trump sits on the sidelines observing so what's his move.
- do nothing and watch the carnage
- keep patching a failing police department with Band-Aids and Super Glue
- send in the National Guard
Here at the Rockhouse, it looks like the National Guard.
Here's the fortune teller part since a whole lot of civilians need to be turning over their guns and why fight to keep them when they only shoot each other with them.
Ed: because a whole lot of this is due to the crack wars
That makes it a turf war since likely there will be 'defense' of areas in which crack is being sold and that comes to a different problem.
For regular people, you can make the pitch in Chicago, you're safer without all those guns since look at the civilian / civilian murders. The ones who use the guns for their crack wars will almost certainly not abandon them so now what.
The Right wing has exacerbated this in two ways:
- exalting gun ownership and marginalizing controls of sales (e.g. no background checks in private sales required, etc)
- high-volume CIA drug trafficking
- overt racism (e.g. Trump is just about to cut off aid to Palestine, etc)
Note: the article regarding cutting off Palestine is on Russia Today and I did not retain the link because I was horrified to see it. I can find it if it's your interest to see the citation.
It's your call, what move should he make now. There's an obvious problem to fix in Chicago and it's making a whole lot of dead people so what will you do. Maybe you like to contest the points exacerbating the problem but how much that goes toward fixing the problem now is questionable. In any case, it's all yours.
As always or at least in the new standard, no biting, scratching, nor pulling of hair.
Have a ball with it.
So we're clear cops are a bad job up there but there were, I believe, seven to eight hundred killings by civilians in Chicago last year and, anywhere else in the war, that would be called a combat zone.
Trump sits on the sidelines observing so what's his move.
- do nothing and watch the carnage
- keep patching a failing police department with Band-Aids and Super Glue
- send in the National Guard
Here at the Rockhouse, it looks like the National Guard.
Here's the fortune teller part since a whole lot of civilians need to be turning over their guns and why fight to keep them when they only shoot each other with them.
Ed: because a whole lot of this is due to the crack wars
That makes it a turf war since likely there will be 'defense' of areas in which crack is being sold and that comes to a different problem.
For regular people, you can make the pitch in Chicago, you're safer without all those guns since look at the civilian / civilian murders. The ones who use the guns for their crack wars will almost certainly not abandon them so now what.
The Right wing has exacerbated this in two ways:
- exalting gun ownership and marginalizing controls of sales (e.g. no background checks in private sales required, etc)
- high-volume CIA drug trafficking
- overt racism (e.g. Trump is just about to cut off aid to Palestine, etc)
Note: the article regarding cutting off Palestine is on Russia Today and I did not retain the link because I was horrified to see it. I can find it if it's your interest to see the citation.
It's your call, what move should he make now. There's an obvious problem to fix in Chicago and it's making a whole lot of dead people so what will you do. Maybe you like to contest the points exacerbating the problem but how much that goes toward fixing the problem now is questionable. In any case, it's all yours.
As always or at least in the new standard, no biting, scratching, nor pulling of hair.
Have a ball with it.
9 comments:
That is a State of Illinois issue. Why is it a Trump issue?
I dont know how Palestinian aid has anything to do with gang violence is South Chicago.
And gun laws have very little to do with this since most of these shooting are done with illegal weapons.
I am not against much stronger gun laws. But they will not solve this issue.
South Chicago has over the last few years become the Wild West with 20 to 30 shootings a day and 2 homicides.
Not to make this too political but there is a direct connection to Democratic mayors and crime rate. I may be wrong but the top 10 most violent cities all have Democratic mayors. ie Oakland Cleveland Chicago Memphis St Louis.
Maybe we should be looking at the punishment since you spend more time in jail for stealing a car than shooting someone.
Why not adopt the British laws that give mandatory jail time for a crime involving a gun. And actually impose it.
We have a 10 year sentence for illegal gun possession but if it isnt enforced it is useless
To the first part: it becomes a Presidential issue when the state can't handle it. Do we agree Chicago is not getting it done?
I see illegal weapons as all part of a Wild West gun trade in general and there's little regulation on it. Maybe there's no way to know how many guns get stolen from private owners but there isn't much reporting of that so maybe it means they mostly protect them well. If that's true then I ask where do they get the guns since we see military style Uzis and all kinds of insane weaponry. Where do they get it?
The political observation is fair enough but I would be supportive of sending in the National Guard even if Chicago were run by Scientologists.
While jail populations in America are far too high, my understanding is many are in there for non-violent crimes so that aspect flummoxes me. Aren't the ones in jail supposed to be the dangerous / violent ones?
After the city fails which it is, the state takes over.
The guns come from armory and gun store thefts, which are very common.
There have been several smash and grab thefts in this area in just the last few months.
The jail population is very heavy on non violent offenders. These inmates would be far better served by utilizing them in civil projects. Judges are hampered in what they can use without an appeal because the inmate would rather do less time in jail
I think I deleted my entry.
Yes Chicago is broken and the city cant fix it. It is now the responsibility of the state to fix it.
Illegal weapons are from armory and gun store thefts. But the number of legal semi autos that with minor changes allows the use of fully auto, barrel changes and the use of high capacity clips.
I believe until last year Tec9s where still legal in California And the Kimmel9 is still legal.
My point on the political correlation is if we had more accountability for gun crimes and lessen limiting the size of a soft drink we might be able to affect change.
Jail populations are skewed because the judges are hand tied to what they can utilize. Judge Carter, a local judge would love to use more community service type sentences but many inmates would rather do less days in jail than do community service
I know the state is supposed to take over but it hasn't done it and the problem has festered. WIth 700-800 deaders from civilian-civilian crime that's a whole lot of festering. I don't have a preferred solution but I do want all that killing addressed in some sensible way.
I wasn't aware of the part about robbing armories and gun stores as a big source. I know the number of gunners is a lot down but these days they have more guns. Unknown how many guns come from burglaries but the collector gunner probably secures them fairly well. That's always the biggest question in where do they get them?
One of your biggest was getting non-violent offenders out into some type of civil service short of a chain gang and let them work it off, learn some useful skills, etc but if you used a gun then you're going down.
It is amazing the firepower that is still legal to buy
And how little impact of a weapon has on a sentence
Given the jail structure above where non-violent offenders can work off their time in other ways but gunners go down hard then I wonder how many gunners keep running the streets.
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