Professor Peabody: after an elemental analysis, the answer is clearly they're not funny
Life’s tough for conservative satirists in the Trump era. ‘I’m the new Lenny Bruce,’ says one. ‘They’re not arresting me; they’re just not allowing me on TV’
The Guardian
Professor Peabody: ok, that one was funny
I don't think it was supposed to be funny, Professor.
Professor Peabody: hmmm, well, that's regrettable, isn't it
Surnow, one of Hollywood’s few outspoken conservatives, told Variety at the time that “the other side hasn’t been skewered in a fair and balanced way” – an observation shared by many on the right as Alec Baldwin prepares, with the orange-dusted skin and the blond pompadour, for the upcoming 43rd season of Saturday Night Live. With the aim of filling that vacancy, Surnow and Fox created The Half Hour News Hour in 2007. They brought on Kurt Long and Jennifer Robertson, who’d sit at a desk not unlike that of SNL’s weekend update and skewer the likes of Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich and Rosie O’Donnell. Often, they’d bring on guests proffering expertise in a given subject – terrorism or immigration, for instance – or act out skits lampooning purportedly liberal preoccupations like sexual harassment and global warming.
The Guardian: Why can't rightwing comics break into US late-night TV?
The Rockhouse isn't impressed with Alec Baldwin and he's not even close to a Lenny Bruce either. When this right-wing comic wants to break into the Big League, he would do better to compete with masters such as Lewis Black. When Black was performing with Dick Gregory, they, like George Carlin and especially in his later years, made the best contemporary resemblance to Lenny Bruce of any others I've seen.
Or, when the House reached a deal to fund the war in Iraq, Long’s on-screen persona Kurt McNally called it “the biggest Democratic collapse since Nancy Pelosi’s facelift gave out”.
- The Guardian
Zen Yogi: that will never play on anyone's late show, Silas, since all he really says is Nancy Pelosi is ugly so neener, neener
He needs better material as in much better. His problem is that he's selling something rather than just letting it rip as would Lewis Black.
But late-night’s liberal monolith often works against itself, its hosts appearing, to all except those of a certain political persuasion, as preachy vehicles of indoctrination, limousine liberals shouting into the void. In turn, anyone who’s turned on a television in the past 15 years might infer that conservatives, or conservative comics, just aren’t funny.
- The Guardian
So far, they haven't shown they are funny.
In a gag about Hillary Clinton called the Benghazi dance – “you can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends to die” – the host is cheeky and natural, though observably hamstrung by a lack of resources and the network on which the show airs.
“It was safer than I wanted to play it,” Loftus explains. “But there was a part of me that just wanted the show on the air, which felt like a victory.”
- The Guardian
Zen Yogi: he really isn't safe when his topic is from multiple years back
When something isn't current, it misses the point since the comedy is almost always in the immediacy of some particular incident. Expecting people to go back years for something which isn't particularly funny anyway isn't at all a safe thing to do.
Zen Yogi: do you want to see him succeed or fail?
In the Rockhouse view, he has already failed but it would be cool if he could succeed since maybe he does have some good ideas if he gets past the ideological straightjacket from his agenda.
How would it be to hear a review of the Ark of the WTF in Kentucky so we can know a right wing comedian's view of it. We would know if he is speeching or jammin' and it could be funny if it's the latter. His team has some measure of concern regarding Fundamentalists who apparently love the Ark so he won't want to piss them off but that's risk and that always makes comedy sharper and better.
Hey there, Mister Conservative who points his finger at me
Don't you worry about my ass, just be as funny as you can be
since applause won't ever come easy and that's just how it gets
so you grab a fistful of heroin and start smoking those cigarettes
If you want to be Lenny Bruce that you must follow all the steps
so you can give the biggest comedy dying on the floor of your toilette
- The Colonel
Zen Yogi. hard-core, Silas
Sure, but it's real and the darkness covers the fact it's not funny. Lenny Bruce is my Greatest God of Comedy but that doesn't restrict me from mocking things about him which were incredibly stupid.
Life’s tough for conservative satirists in the Trump era. ‘I’m the new Lenny Bruce,’ says one. ‘They’re not arresting me; they’re just not allowing me on TV’
The Guardian
Professor Peabody: ok, that one was funny
I don't think it was supposed to be funny, Professor.
Professor Peabody: hmmm, well, that's regrettable, isn't it
Surnow, one of Hollywood’s few outspoken conservatives, told Variety at the time that “the other side hasn’t been skewered in a fair and balanced way” – an observation shared by many on the right as Alec Baldwin prepares, with the orange-dusted skin and the blond pompadour, for the upcoming 43rd season of Saturday Night Live. With the aim of filling that vacancy, Surnow and Fox created The Half Hour News Hour in 2007. They brought on Kurt Long and Jennifer Robertson, who’d sit at a desk not unlike that of SNL’s weekend update and skewer the likes of Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich and Rosie O’Donnell. Often, they’d bring on guests proffering expertise in a given subject – terrorism or immigration, for instance – or act out skits lampooning purportedly liberal preoccupations like sexual harassment and global warming.
The Guardian: Why can't rightwing comics break into US late-night TV?
The Rockhouse isn't impressed with Alec Baldwin and he's not even close to a Lenny Bruce either. When this right-wing comic wants to break into the Big League, he would do better to compete with masters such as Lewis Black. When Black was performing with Dick Gregory, they, like George Carlin and especially in his later years, made the best contemporary resemblance to Lenny Bruce of any others I've seen.
Or, when the House reached a deal to fund the war in Iraq, Long’s on-screen persona Kurt McNally called it “the biggest Democratic collapse since Nancy Pelosi’s facelift gave out”.
- The Guardian
Zen Yogi: that will never play on anyone's late show, Silas, since all he really says is Nancy Pelosi is ugly so neener, neener
He needs better material as in much better. His problem is that he's selling something rather than just letting it rip as would Lewis Black.
But late-night’s liberal monolith often works against itself, its hosts appearing, to all except those of a certain political persuasion, as preachy vehicles of indoctrination, limousine liberals shouting into the void. In turn, anyone who’s turned on a television in the past 15 years might infer that conservatives, or conservative comics, just aren’t funny.
- The Guardian
So far, they haven't shown they are funny.
In a gag about Hillary Clinton called the Benghazi dance – “you can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends to die” – the host is cheeky and natural, though observably hamstrung by a lack of resources and the network on which the show airs.
“It was safer than I wanted to play it,” Loftus explains. “But there was a part of me that just wanted the show on the air, which felt like a victory.”
- The Guardian
Zen Yogi: he really isn't safe when his topic is from multiple years back
When something isn't current, it misses the point since the comedy is almost always in the immediacy of some particular incident. Expecting people to go back years for something which isn't particularly funny anyway isn't at all a safe thing to do.
Zen Yogi: do you want to see him succeed or fail?
In the Rockhouse view, he has already failed but it would be cool if he could succeed since maybe he does have some good ideas if he gets past the ideological straightjacket from his agenda.
How would it be to hear a review of the Ark of the WTF in Kentucky so we can know a right wing comedian's view of it. We would know if he is speeching or jammin' and it could be funny if it's the latter. His team has some measure of concern regarding Fundamentalists who apparently love the Ark so he won't want to piss them off but that's risk and that always makes comedy sharper and better.
Hey there, Mister Conservative who points his finger at me
Don't you worry about my ass, just be as funny as you can be
since applause won't ever come easy and that's just how it gets
so you grab a fistful of heroin and start smoking those cigarettes
If you want to be Lenny Bruce that you must follow all the steps
so you can give the biggest comedy dying on the floor of your toilette
- The Colonel
Zen Yogi. hard-core, Silas
Sure, but it's real and the darkness covers the fact it's not funny. Lenny Bruce is my Greatest God of Comedy but that doesn't restrict me from mocking things about him which were incredibly stupid.
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