It's been the rage in the Philippines and probably elsewhere also to be crucified on Easter. It won't be one crucifixion but multiple and crowds gather, presumably with tourists among them. We don't know if there are crucifixion tourists but it seems inevitably there would be gawkers for such a thing.
Also the rage in the Philippines is to flail themselves with some types of whips to take a substantial area of skin off their backs. They walk the streets doing this so people can see the blood-covered wounds all over them.
We're not supposed to judge things but of course we will because ... screw that ... moving right along ...
If you observe the detail of the crucifixion, you will see two heavy-gauge ropes lashing each of the supplicant's arms to the cross. It looks like there really is a nail through each palm. Unknown if the supplicant also has a nail into his legs. The pain of it must be unbelievable ... but it's not a crucifixion.
My understanding is the actual Crucifixion killed Jesus because all of his weight was held by his palms so that caused him to slump forward. That compressed his lungs and hopefully had the mercy that it did not take too long to kill him. However, the ropes secure the supplicant's arms to prevent that while generally preserving the display but that moves it to the category of a show of an extremely perverse nature.
Note: it's not my purpose to cast doubt on anything except the traditional observations of things. As to what actually happened on Calvary, it's your call but the above is what sciencers have suggested regarding how it ended or how that phase of it ended.
The real buster, tho, is the idea suffering gets you closer to God. Maybe that's the Bernadette Principle in which she had some terrible pain from tuberculosis but never complained to anyone so surely she must be a saint. She was the Lady of Lourdes and I have no opinion about what she saw but a whole lot of people thought it was credible.
It's the value of pain which rips my goznitch. It's value for education into don't do that again, dumb ass, but it has zero value beyond that. Besides, if God wanted you to feel pain, why would he erase it from your memory so quickly. Try as you like, you won't be able to remember what a physical pain felt like after it stops. When your body is designed to protect you from it, what logic says God would value it in some way if you feel more of it.
Note: don't get carried away by the use of 'design' as I have no opinion on what made the design except the observation it's a maze of such incredibly intricate systems.
We sincerely wish all of you a Happy Easter because, from the perspective here, all religions are true and they have little reason to conflict with each other. We do believe one day they will see that and maybe it takes another Prophet to show the way. Unknown but we do believe it will come because the soul of the world is crying out for it.
(Ed: if you say Bernie Sanders, I'll summon the Council of Inquisitors myself!)
No need after you have said it. Maybe you could argue he doesn't have the humility since he seeks to be President but he's a wise man and knows he cannot do it any other way. Maybe the best clue is how vigorously he would deny such a thing is even possible but he has shown he has given his entire life to public service and taken little, relatively speaking, in return.
(Ed: are you seriously going to paint him as a Saint?)
He fits the saintly slippers but my guess is Saints don't get a whole lot of sex and Sanders has been happily married for a considerable time. The humility doesn't seem such a huge demerit, tho, relative to Muhammad who only sought to create an empire and he did it in generally unifying the tribes of Saudi Arabia, I believe.
(Ed: you ARE trying to call him a Prophet!)
Nah, the only suggestion here is he could have been and he would have been a damn fine one.
(Ed: but he's crazy!)
Yah, they say that about all the Prophets, don't they (larfs).
Also the rage in the Philippines is to flail themselves with some types of whips to take a substantial area of skin off their backs. They walk the streets doing this so people can see the blood-covered wounds all over them.
We're not supposed to judge things but of course we will because ... screw that ... moving right along ...
If you observe the detail of the crucifixion, you will see two heavy-gauge ropes lashing each of the supplicant's arms to the cross. It looks like there really is a nail through each palm. Unknown if the supplicant also has a nail into his legs. The pain of it must be unbelievable ... but it's not a crucifixion.
My understanding is the actual Crucifixion killed Jesus because all of his weight was held by his palms so that caused him to slump forward. That compressed his lungs and hopefully had the mercy that it did not take too long to kill him. However, the ropes secure the supplicant's arms to prevent that while generally preserving the display but that moves it to the category of a show of an extremely perverse nature.
Note: it's not my purpose to cast doubt on anything except the traditional observations of things. As to what actually happened on Calvary, it's your call but the above is what sciencers have suggested regarding how it ended or how that phase of it ended.
The real buster, tho, is the idea suffering gets you closer to God. Maybe that's the Bernadette Principle in which she had some terrible pain from tuberculosis but never complained to anyone so surely she must be a saint. She was the Lady of Lourdes and I have no opinion about what she saw but a whole lot of people thought it was credible.
It's the value of pain which rips my goznitch. It's value for education into don't do that again, dumb ass, but it has zero value beyond that. Besides, if God wanted you to feel pain, why would he erase it from your memory so quickly. Try as you like, you won't be able to remember what a physical pain felt like after it stops. When your body is designed to protect you from it, what logic says God would value it in some way if you feel more of it.
Note: don't get carried away by the use of 'design' as I have no opinion on what made the design except the observation it's a maze of such incredibly intricate systems.
We sincerely wish all of you a Happy Easter because, from the perspective here, all religions are true and they have little reason to conflict with each other. We do believe one day they will see that and maybe it takes another Prophet to show the way. Unknown but we do believe it will come because the soul of the world is crying out for it.
(Ed: if you say Bernie Sanders, I'll summon the Council of Inquisitors myself!)
No need after you have said it. Maybe you could argue he doesn't have the humility since he seeks to be President but he's a wise man and knows he cannot do it any other way. Maybe the best clue is how vigorously he would deny such a thing is even possible but he has shown he has given his entire life to public service and taken little, relatively speaking, in return.
(Ed: are you seriously going to paint him as a Saint?)
He fits the saintly slippers but my guess is Saints don't get a whole lot of sex and Sanders has been happily married for a considerable time. The humility doesn't seem such a huge demerit, tho, relative to Muhammad who only sought to create an empire and he did it in generally unifying the tribes of Saudi Arabia, I believe.
(Ed: you ARE trying to call him a Prophet!)
Nah, the only suggestion here is he could have been and he would have been a damn fine one.
(Ed: but he's crazy!)
Yah, they say that about all the Prophets, don't they (larfs).
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