The universities hold the intelligentsia and they're the first ones to get annoyed when the government starts to stink and they usually revolt when it smells as corrupt as America. In China, they shoot crooked corporate managers and it's necessary because the students watch everything they do and the government knows it.
Just as in China, the answer is to control the press and that's no trouble in America because the conservatives own it. As with education, the free flow of information is the fastest path to a revolution so they gutted CNN and Fox as news organizations and focused instead on Kim Kardashian or any from a wide range of useless human baggage of that nature.
Conservatives in America also saw the danger in the universities and they do the same thing as the Chinese in different ways. While the Chinese go for direct blockade of the Internet, the US instead makes the information unreliable so you can see whatever you like but it probably has no value. Anything the government does, unless deliberately leaked for fake news effect, is strictly censored.
The other technique in America is to push all to a college education and insist on it. We often see people who claim college degrees but don't know the language well enough to pass a grade school spelling bee.
By marginalizing the population within the universities through introduction of a huge population of knuckledraggers, the potential for revolution is reduced and you saw how things went with OWS. Obama pulled out the guns and we were only moments away from another Kent State. OWS rolled over and that was the end of it.
(Ed: Obama is a Democrat!)
Like hell he is. The last one to turn the state guns on the people was Governor James Rhodes with the endorsement of Richard Nixon. If that's a Democrat then, fine, sign him up. Sign up Clinton at the same time as she's part of it as well. Absolute disgrace.
(Ed: everyone has a right to a college education!)
Fair enough but not everyone has a need for it. In the (cough) modern context, a college degree is required for a job but then take a look at the jobs they get, Gladstone. Only the genii get good ones and the rest go to Walmart.
Here at the Rockhouse, we actually regret failing to learn Greek and Latin in school. Cadillac Man and I spoke of that a few days ago.
(Ed: they weren't even offered!)
OK, so the school failed ... but they do that quite a bit anyway. Prayer in school will make that better, tho (larfs).
The need for these languages is for the etymology of words and that's dry nonsense to most but it's the evolution of thought along the lines of Chomsky, if you like, insofar as our perception of things is limited by our ability to our express that in our language. Therefore, finding how the language got that way is of high interest to me.
(Ed: you're interested in boring, bullshit things!)
Yah but these are the people who go to university where we can learn lots of boring, bullshit things. The reason why is to play with them like a child's building blocks to discover what else they make.
(Ed: conservatives don't build anything!)
I'm not a conservative.
Just as in China, the answer is to control the press and that's no trouble in America because the conservatives own it. As with education, the free flow of information is the fastest path to a revolution so they gutted CNN and Fox as news organizations and focused instead on Kim Kardashian or any from a wide range of useless human baggage of that nature.
Conservatives in America also saw the danger in the universities and they do the same thing as the Chinese in different ways. While the Chinese go for direct blockade of the Internet, the US instead makes the information unreliable so you can see whatever you like but it probably has no value. Anything the government does, unless deliberately leaked for fake news effect, is strictly censored.
The other technique in America is to push all to a college education and insist on it. We often see people who claim college degrees but don't know the language well enough to pass a grade school spelling bee.
By marginalizing the population within the universities through introduction of a huge population of knuckledraggers, the potential for revolution is reduced and you saw how things went with OWS. Obama pulled out the guns and we were only moments away from another Kent State. OWS rolled over and that was the end of it.
(Ed: Obama is a Democrat!)
Like hell he is. The last one to turn the state guns on the people was Governor James Rhodes with the endorsement of Richard Nixon. If that's a Democrat then, fine, sign him up. Sign up Clinton at the same time as she's part of it as well. Absolute disgrace.
(Ed: everyone has a right to a college education!)
Fair enough but not everyone has a need for it. In the (cough) modern context, a college degree is required for a job but then take a look at the jobs they get, Gladstone. Only the genii get good ones and the rest go to Walmart.
Here at the Rockhouse, we actually regret failing to learn Greek and Latin in school. Cadillac Man and I spoke of that a few days ago.
(Ed: they weren't even offered!)
OK, so the school failed ... but they do that quite a bit anyway. Prayer in school will make that better, tho (larfs).
The need for these languages is for the etymology of words and that's dry nonsense to most but it's the evolution of thought along the lines of Chomsky, if you like, insofar as our perception of things is limited by our ability to our express that in our language. Therefore, finding how the language got that way is of high interest to me.
(Ed: you're interested in boring, bullshit things!)
Yah but these are the people who go to university where we can learn lots of boring, bullshit things. The reason why is to play with them like a child's building blocks to discover what else they make.
(Ed: conservatives don't build anything!)
I'm not a conservative.
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The school that you first attended in Cinti offered Greek(until 1970) and Latin. Your youngest sibling took at least 3 years.
But wasnt a normal public school if you didnt achieve grades a student would be sent back to thier district school.
If you want an exercise in futility.
Research Common Core math. It will undoubtedly explain why US students are losing to the world in math.
Ex
37 + 15.
Take 3 from 15 to make 37 4 tens
And now 15 becomes 1 ten and 2 ones
And tens to become 5 tens add 2 ones to become 52.
Can you make the process any harder for a 7 year. But this is the same system that stopped my daughters from using simultaneous equation equations in 6th grade to solve problem rather than trial and error as the other children " would not understand".
So you are right prayer in school wont help these children with math.
As even an intelligent person would not have a prayer of understanding Common Core math without a lot of supervision. And with a class size of 30+ that allows only 45secs on individual teacher time(that is if she does nothing else)
Please dont take this as a personal attack. I dont think you have any experience in how bad the school systems have become.
They are a far cry from WHHS
Only for grades seven to nine. I was admitted in grade eleven so I never saw them. Besides, after California, that place was Folsom Prison to me.
I have no direct experience with the poor quality of education but it's not a difficult thing to see when I observe how people express themselves (i.e. badly).
I have considered sometimes whether I learned anything of significance in high school. Other than algebra, I'm not coming up with much of anything and I still resent the complete waste of time it was. Seeing it got even worse is blazing tragedy to me. I seriously voted for every school tax levy which ever came in front of me and you know I have no kids. My concern really is what becomes of them. When we don't adequately prepare the children, what hope can anyone have.
Passing tax levies that produce ideas such as Common Core is useless.
I didnt see it as a prison but it is one of the highest rated public schools in the country. It follows my philosophy of some people ( knuckledraggers ) aginst the Dept of Education wishes should be left behind.
Horace Greeley was right in wanting everyone taught. But the all achieve different levels and speeds. Public schools refuse to acknowledge that. Until they do they will continue to fail
Look at Chicagos. Urban Prep Academies.
A lottery based public prep school in the ghetto. It does exactly whay I suggest select smart determined kids from supportive families. They weed out the chaff and go for it.
They send 100% of their graduates to a 4 year university.
We should be doing that everywhere.
Do you want to learn, cool , visit us and succeed.
America needs to get even more radical with education because it seems tangled up on equality. Everyone has an equal right hardly anyone has equal capability or desire for it. Helping kids sort themselves for what they want or are capable of doing seems it must happen at a much earlier age so kids can split off to trade schools, uni track, or whatever. My impression is the attempt to educate everyone just the same but not everyone is capable of doing that or even want it.
In my own experience, I never spoke with a high school guidance counselor and maybe none of them tried because I was obviously on a uni track. The more difficult prospect is what of a kid who wants to go to uni but really isn't suited for it. Is this one a late-bloomer or would some other school path be better. The problem I see confounding almost all of this is the idea of turning everyone out the same and the problem with that is we're not.
I understand your point on vouchers but I don't accept it in the current environment because it creates crazy duplication of ability, wasted money, etc, etc. Maybe I'm even agreeing with the concept generally but I need to be clear kid are being well-prepared for whichever direction they will go, no-one is forcing them one way, or another and the part probably least-acceptable is I want it free for all of them. The thinking is this one is a freebie, young daredevil, but for anything past this you will need to pay for it.
Frankly, I doubt the educational system can be saved in its current form mostly because so many special interests are trying to pull it one way or another. What I want is to go a level below that to satisfy the needs of people a different way and I believe better assistance with a kid's educational plan is a key part of that. I mean in terms of which track do I really need.
As to knuckledraggers, I don't know any. Someone who works on the docks may be a genius and Ted Nay is the proof of that but there are many who couldn't find their way home without a GPS. We're on the high end of a bell curve and it goes a long, long way in the opposite direction. I never really knew how stupid people could be until I saw the Army with the draft. The guy who could not get it together to keep time in marching was personally a nice person to know but he just could not get it together. It's not a matter of superiority as I believe humans sort each other much more based on mind than anything else.
We sort our friends with people who are just too damn dumb to keep up and others who are damn annoying know-it-alls so my squad lies happily in the middle. Doesn't matter where that middle may be in the bell, that's just where we like to be.
Vouchers allow smart poor kids can be educated today. There is no time to put together a tiered system based on ability fast enough. The school the fairy princess could easily accept 100 kids by the start of school. PS it doesnt have prayer but doesnt ban it. And it will save me tax exposure unless you income cap them vouchers I doubt the GOP would sign off on the cap
Once we save the smart kids then we can open the way for the next level.
PS all Tennessee graduates receive free tuition to any state funded tech colleges today. And we have tenn care insurance for most lower income families. And we have no income tax just flat sales tax.
But we dont pay for everyone because most dont need it.
I understand the voucher concept but it seems more a shell game of shifting things around rather than really addressing the fundamental problem of inordinate amounts of money being spent on education but it really doesn't accomplish all that much.
For example, it's all very well if the 'best' kids get the great private school education but, in effect, that relegates the others to a scrap heap. I want it addressed for all of them and speed doesn't impress me much after people spent so long wrecking it. In my view, it's worth taking the time to put a system together properly and I absolutely always used that approach in the professional aspect of my life as in slower makes better quality every single time.
I did find you a knuckledragger, tho. He's in another article about a trial transcript in which the defendant is so abusive of the judge it's shocking. The transcript seems to be authentic or someone put one hell of a lot of time into making a fake but that seems a waste just for a minor buzz of feeling superior.
I am not addressing the entire system just a fix to save bright ones of today.
Until systems like Common Core are solved there is no hope for the general population. You should really research the idiocy of Common Core math.
As to the speed of fixing it, you could lose another generation to this system before it even started to change. But that is based that those in charge believe it is broken.
I know you mean to solve problems now and there are consequences from going more slowly. However, my estimation is applying another Band-Aid to a broken system will only defer the time until a real long-term solution comes. Sorry but my experience reveals too many instances of fix now / finalize later which have not worked.
My purpose isn't to push things so far out into an airy fairy future that still nothing happens because the immediacy you mention is real but I must stand firm because, even if no-one else does, kids deserve the best since they didn't ask for any of this.
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