tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post2442949334207784262..comments2024-01-21T10:04:31.352-06:00Comments on Searching for Ithaka: Chuck Schumer Advocates Extirpation of PalestineAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-64721649478145486512017-08-17T11:24:45.344-05:002017-08-17T11:24:45.344-05:0068-74 opens for one of CM's favorite themes re...68-74 opens for one of CM's favorite themes regarding one's frame of reference. It was only a few years after me but already the world had shifted enough that the frame of reference changed for the kids. From within mine ending in 69, there was the view of imminent death for a variety of reasons but quite a bit of that changed quickly as things wound down in Vietnam.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-73803390206702223742017-08-17T11:19:52.036-05:002017-08-17T11:19:52.036-05:00I didn't catch that part, only that the First ...I didn't catch that part, only that the First Crusaders slaughtered everyone there and Saladin did not although his reasons were more than simple humanitarianism.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-45451409060413603042017-08-16T08:22:49.708-05:002017-08-16T08:22:49.708-05:00I would not call selling, all the population that ...I would not call selling, all the population that could not afford to pay the surrender ransom, into slavery as mercy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-73098844126121919162017-08-16T08:15:25.478-05:002017-08-16T08:15:25.478-05:00I went to WHHS from 68 to 74. There were two favor...I went to WHHS from 68 to 74. There were two favorite topic of the AV/Roselawn crowd promoting Isreal and fighting Soviet Jewery the latter culminating in the March on Washington 10 or 12 years after I graduated Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-32192276289909891362017-08-13T09:31:46.659-05:002017-08-13T09:31:46.659-05:00I was getting thrown out of WHHS in 1967 due to (c...I was getting thrown out of WHHS in 1967 due to (cough) habitual truancy so there really wasn't much discussion of anything.<br /><br />That Judaism associates strongly with Israel is irrelevant to me since it rolls religion into state behavior and that's just used to justify the slaughter in the Occupied Territories as if God told them to do it. What logic is this?<br /><br />Palestine, regardless of whether it was a state, territory, or a crater on the Moon, was a recognized entity and America / Britain dropped into Israel into it. They've called themselves righteous for it ever since but it doesn't obviate the fact the only one who brought mercy to Jerusalem was Saladin. Witness the slaughter from the First Crusade.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-89919065794712443332017-08-11T17:05:38.751-05:002017-08-11T17:05:38.751-05:00CM, I remember participating in the sit-in (or one...CM, I remember participating in the sit-in (or one of them) for civil rights at WHHS but I don't call much else of the place. There was a real stiff of an English teacher but he definitely knew the language and earns a great deal of slack. Apart from that, it hardly registered at all. I was surprised to see most of the civil rights protesters were black but I was still new to the country and had not seen serious racism yet. There were hardly any black people in Davis, CA. Cincinnati sure changed all that and that's not to whack the place since nowhere here has a monopoly on racism.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-27443802677191145932017-08-11T16:58:48.610-05:002017-08-11T16:58:48.610-05:00Its Constitution can say what it likes but that do...Its Constitution can say what it likes but that doesn't obviate the fact Judaism is everywhere and Israel definitely is not.<br /><br />Everything was a geographic region at one time but the the Brits and US put Israel into this one and there's been shooting ever since. Israel has since usurped almost all of the land designated Palestine at that time so there's no obvious evidence of a threat to Israel but it's a major threat to anyone around it.<br /><br />That you agree with Schumer confirms my opinion he's a Republican pretending to be a Democrat. I'll take my chances with Jewish people I know calling me anti-Semitic and it's never happened yet.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-20552990425457304212017-08-11T08:45:01.226-05:002017-08-11T08:45:01.226-05:00I believe the flaw in your premise is that you'...I believe the flaw in your premise is that you're ascribing a Western concept of "separation of Church and State" to Middle Eastern nations in which such a concept not only doesn't exist but would be considered blasphemous to suggest. The fact is, Israel - by UN definition and by its own Constitution (not to mention the view of its Arab neighbors)is, indeed, a Jewish state. <br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state<br /><br />As to Israel "whacking Palestinians since 1947" I would argue:<br /><br />1. There's no such thing as a Palestinian any more than there is a Gobi Desertian. Palestine is (and always has been back into antiquity) a geographical region, not a nation. Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon may have common cause to take exception to Israel's boundaries, but the so-called "Palestinians" do not.<br /><br />2. The conflict with Israel that started in 1947 was initiated by those surrounding Arab states, not Israel. The continued support by those surrounding states of terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah are proof positive that Israel's strong military posture must be maintained. They're in an existential war and will likely be in one until we stop trying to straddle the fence and stop trying to find a two-state solution. There isn't one.<br /><br />So yes, I agree with Schumer in this case. The anti-Israeli view is, in fact, anti-Semitic. Israel and Judaism are not separable. Kannafoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04548556572562266584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-15835262267909443922017-08-11T06:37:29.541-05:002017-08-11T06:37:29.541-05:00I guess you did not stay at WHHS very long to not ...I guess you did not stay at WHHS very long to not hear the anti Palestinian rhetoric. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com