tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post1255937777249396626..comments2024-01-21T10:04:31.352-06:00Comments on Searching for Ithaka: How Can One Teach Climate Change When One Doesn't Know It #ScienceAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-89401583469818734462017-06-14T05:29:45.677-05:002017-06-14T05:29:45.677-05:00I was thinking teachers have been getting some bad...I was thinking teachers have been getting some bad publicity due to a small number of them with major head worms about sex and kids.<br /><br />Fair enough on mandating standards as, abhorrent as they may be, sometimes they're necessary.<br /><br />Skipping past the basic idea of unions, I'm looking at the Guilds from olden times in which they took great pride in being the best at whatever craft or trade since only the best of the apprentices become masters. That model is still active in Europe today. In other words, they police themselves internally.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-31753365615275241042017-06-14T01:17:21.830-05:002017-06-14T01:17:21.830-05:00Not sure how a tiny percentage of sex offenders pl...Not sure how a tiny percentage of sex offenders play into this.<br /> Or the ugliness of mandating professional standards.<br /> It is done for so many professions <br />plumbers electricians etc Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-52683883443845949602017-06-13T19:01:51.515-05:002017-06-13T19:01:51.515-05:00There's a whole lot of ugly around mandating t...There's a whole lot of ugly around mandating things but the situation with the teachers is difficult since maybe it's not likely there's continuing education of any kind.<br /><br />The converse is the pitch the teachers are overworked and maybe they are; I don't know. It only takes one nailing students to wipe a whole lot of good teacher intentions and there was another hot body who was busted the other day. She was a knockout, too, so ... wtf. In any case, they make the profession smell and make people possibly dismissive of any idea they're overworked.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-35379632066222379312017-06-13T15:48:09.139-05:002017-06-13T15:48:09.139-05:00I love mandates dictating the amount knowledge of ...I love mandates dictating the amount knowledge of my Drs.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-19900330874463346612017-06-13T09:01:27.368-05:002017-06-13T09:01:27.368-05:00It really wasn't so much the job (honest) sinc...It really wasn't so much the job (honest) since my greatest expertise wasn't part of it. Sysfrogs don't write code but I wrote a lot of it. That situation is unusual but it doesn't refute your point since wanting the better work gig means working for it and that arithmetic doesn't change.<br /><br />I know you don't like the idea of a mandate any more than I but maybe it is necessary since we can wonder all day about the teacher's inner drive but if it doesn't take the teacher back for refresher courses sometimes then there must be something wrong with it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-59014828030590052902017-06-13T06:48:02.311-05:002017-06-13T06:48:02.311-05:00Ongoing learning should be mandated as part of the...Ongoing learning should be mandated as part of the teacher licensing process.<br /> I would think that it would be easy to get the great teachers to comply. But a never-ending process to get the average teachers to attend. Again getting unions to agree will be very hard.<br /> What motivated you to learn your job better?. Oh yeah self driven <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-21848089654627358602017-06-12T15:01:09.994-05:002017-06-12T15:01:09.994-05:00It seems the conundrum is they could but don't...It seems the conundrum is they could but don't ... but ... no-one wants the state making mandates. It seems we need to understand the motivation and I'm not trying to be Swordfish clever since what motivates a teacher to go back to do that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-19573772398374527592017-06-12T06:34:02.585-05:002017-06-12T06:34:02.585-05:00It could easily be done throughout the year as the...It could easily be done throughout the year as they have two weeks off every nine week some one week every 10 and longer summer break.<br /> They have plenty of compensated free time to stay well versed in current information Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-61990206591164966552017-06-12T04:22:37.900-05:002017-06-12T04:22:37.900-05:00Sabbatical isn't unusual in the academic envir...Sabbatical isn't unusual in the academic environment so it's really not pie in the sky and I do note the military and various corporations will ship you off for major schooling so long as it's something suited to whatever they want. The other type of corporate schooling is generally the three- to five-day cerebral smush type of education which is somewhat effective but brutal in delivery.<br /><br />The thinking isn't so unorthodox but the implementation in systems which do not already use a mechanism of that nature will inevitably be difficult and possibly not even valuable although there is the context in which we want continuing education for high school teachers so long as it's in some practical form.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-38636577110782457502017-06-11T18:54:22.231-05:002017-06-11T18:54:22.231-05:00Masters can be done during summers
Did anyone ev...Masters can be done during summers <br /> Did anyone ever give you a year off to perfect your craft. I didn't think so.<br /> No one did that for me either. I invested in my self as dis you.<br /> One either believes in what they do or should be replaced with someone that does Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-43818692966056734862017-06-11T12:25:40.772-05:002017-06-11T12:25:40.772-05:00I don't get the overworked aspect either but I...I don't get the overworked aspect either but I'm not a teacher. Your approach may well work better since a year-long sabbatical really would be best used toward a Masters.<br /><br />Sure, this is definitely masturbation over the short-term but it's policy over the long-term when enough people see the idea and think, yeah, I want that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-7776723733052432092017-06-11T11:52:19.665-05:002017-06-11T11:52:19.665-05:00But this is just mental masturbation as you would ...But this is just mental masturbation as you would have to first have get the union to admit that there is a problem. And it lies at the feet of the teachers.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-76606557580503447802017-06-11T11:45:56.889-05:002017-06-11T11:45:56.889-05:00how about a 4 week Sumner class each
year That is...how about a 4 week Sumner class each <br />year That is what my favorite private school does As they have two weeks off every nine weeks. 9 weeks in the summer <br />And every National holidays.<br /> Not sure if tjat fits overworkedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-29273212383250348552017-06-11T10:07:08.645-05:002017-06-11T10:07:08.645-05:00In the source article it says they are overworked ...In the source article it says they are overworked and do not have time. I have no recent experience with high school teachers so I don't know how hard they work.<br /><br />The good Socialist doesn't want to mandate the behavior of the schools since we want them to do it because it's right. There's an obvious need for continuing education with doctors due to the constant changes but the need is more subtle with teachers and it's been overlooked.<br /><br />Here's a plan which I think may satisfy, well, just about anyone. How about a form of sabbatical for high school teachers in which every, say, four years they go back for a year to university but the university must provide a junior teacher in 'trade' during that year. Feel free to argue about who pays for it but the cost wouldn't be much and the result potentially spectacular.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-61730394928612938752017-06-11T10:01:09.546-05:002017-06-11T10:01:09.546-05:00My conclusion is based on an endemic lack of under...My conclusion is based on an endemic lack of understanding of climate control which is either feigned because it saves short-term dollars to avoid it or they just don't know. I don't really see anyone doing such a good job of it but you have a fair point in also saying adding private / public schools to the discussion here doesn't yield anything useful.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152407256780002310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-40277397174137346892017-06-11T07:17:26.037-05:002017-06-11T07:17:26.037-05:00But it is disturbing that science teachers are not...But it is disturbing that science teachers are not required to take yearly classes or attend seminars etc to stay abreast of their field <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6926870823165438047.post-39261645795876637062017-06-11T07:15:22.085-05:002017-06-11T07:15:22.085-05:00Your comment that it is not a public private issue...Your comment that it is not a public private issue has no basis.<br /> The research does not separate the teachers or should into any demographic grouping.<br /> But private schools test higher and on average receive higher % of academic schomarships than public schools. So it would be reasonable to assume that they would dare better if this research was separated. But it was not so no conclusion can be made that it is or is not related to public or private schools <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com